Best viewed with any browser?
Sunday, February 11. 2007, 00:42
Now, if you've been on the internet a bit longer, you may remember those sites at the end of the 90s telling you that they're »best viewed with a resolution of 1024x768 and the Microsoft Internet Explorer version 6.0". Luckily, most of those pages disappeared with the upcoming success of Mozilla Firefox and others (oh, there are still some, e. g. the cinema in my home town, but ie6 runs on wine).
As you may know, I'm a happy KDE user and have been using Konqueror as my everyday browser for some time now. Recently, I discovered more and more pages I couldn't use any more. I had to start this thing called Firefox. I don't like it, but that is not the point here.
I even noticed today that ebay has a new interface that konqueror doens't like.
This is a result of the more and more upcoming AJAX/JavaScript-stuff, which is often nice, I saw a lot of well designed web applications lately (ok, I saw a lot of crap, too). I'm not enough into JavaScript to know if it's the lack of support by Konqueror or the pages. I just hope that people will come together and find solutions for that. I remember that there was some discussion about using webcore (the khtml-fork used by apples safari) for konqueror, don't know if that would make it better, maybe some users of this drm-crippled system could comment on that.
As you may know, I'm a happy KDE user and have been using Konqueror as my everyday browser for some time now. Recently, I discovered more and more pages I couldn't use any more. I had to start this thing called Firefox. I don't like it, but that is not the point here.
I even noticed today that ebay has a new interface that konqueror doens't like.
This is a result of the more and more upcoming AJAX/JavaScript-stuff, which is often nice, I saw a lot of well designed web applications lately (ok, I saw a lot of crap, too). I'm not enough into JavaScript to know if it's the lack of support by Konqueror or the pages. I just hope that people will come together and find solutions for that. I remember that there was some discussion about using webcore (the khtml-fork used by apples safari) for konqueror, don't know if that would make it better, maybe some users of this drm-crippled system could comment on that.
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I have also noticed more sites not working with konqueror, so I am using firefox as my main browser now. Some of it is khtml, some is just user agent strings.
#1
Boohbah
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2007-02-11 01:19
It's just KHTML. It lacks so much JavaScript-goodness that it is really a pain to make a rich webapplication run with it. I really like KHTML in general but this JavaScript-stuff should be the most important thing to work on for the KDE-guys.
AJAX and JavaScript can do some nice stuff but I don't believe that it's a solid solution to making the web more interactive. I really hope there's something better around the corner. I do use it in small doses but I make a point of trying not to rely on it. In most places, I do provide non-JavaScript alternatives. Unfortunately I try to keep my machine KDE-free so I don't have Konqueror installed. Maybe I'll make the effort at some point though.
#3
James+Le+Cuirot
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2007-02-11 05:27
»AJAX and JavaScript can do some nice stuff but I don't believe that it's a solid solution to making the web more interactive.«
OK, you're just joking, don't you? I mean, take a look at the thing we call web. JavaScript is already the technology to make it more interactive. And if we take a look at the number of success stories it seems not to be best but it seems solid enough. So there is just no excuse for vendors for the lack of solid JavaScript support. It must be there nowadays.
OK, you're just joking, don't you? I mean, take a look at the thing we call web. JavaScript is already the technology to make it more interactive. And if we take a look at the number of success stories it seems not to be best but it seems solid enough. So there is just no excuse for vendors for the lack of solid JavaScript support. It must be there nowadays.
Don't get me wrong, it is capable and it is important but from a programmer's perpective (particularly one who didn't start out coding for the web), it just seems so messy!
#3.1.1
James+Le+Cuirot
on
2007-02-12 03:34
The fine thing about the world is, that it is not built by programmers but by people who uses today's technology to achieve what they want.
And the bad thing about the stuff these people build is that it tends to explode into the faces of yet other people.
:)
:)
#3.1.1.1.1
Arne+Babenhauserheide
(Link)
on
2007-02-14 03:27
I don't like pages doing Javascript, either, but there's still one worse option: Doing Flash.
Some Javascripts don't work in my Konqueror, but Flash generally doesn't work, because there's no decent amd64 flash support, so any flash page just gets me moving on.
Still, Javascript isn't that nice, and even though I dabbled a bit with it for Webdesing for a while, I decided to keep out of it.
Wishes,
Arne
Some Javascripts don't work in my Konqueror, but Flash generally doesn't work, because there's no decent amd64 flash support, so any flash page just gets me moving on.
Still, Javascript isn't that nice, and even though I dabbled a bit with it for Webdesing for a while, I decided to keep out of it.
Wishes,
Arne
same happened to me but I "was" a happy FF user.. hmm Ajax is a common problem, there was an FF versioning that didnt let me access gmail.com, hence and that comment by Arne+Babenhauserheide * "exploding on faces ppl"*, I totally agree.
So, I thought while reading this ... ¿Why not validating my page on W3C? ..hmmmm and I got this error about ampersand...
So, I thought while reading this ... ¿Why not validating my page on W3C? ..hmmmm and I got this error about ampersand...
#5
Joako Euskal
on
2007-02-16 21:22
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